It was clear from the outset that this wasn't just another professional dialogue. The warmth and genuine connection between Dr. Nika White and Diya Khanna were palpable, setting the stage for an insightful and deeply resonant conversation. Dr. White, setting the tone, affectionately introduced Diya as "not only just a colleague, but she is a friend. She is a sister in the work," highlighting the strong rapport they share in the vital field of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI). Dr. White provided a compelling overview for those unfamiliar with Diya's impressive background. With 20 years of experience spanning profit, non-profit, and the tech industry, Diya is a global DEI Speaker, Facilitator, and Consultant. Her significant accomplishments include her pivotal role at Amazon, where she led CORE+ (Conversations on Race and Ethnicity), an annual internal conference that reached a staggering 1.3 million employees. Diya's expertise lies in developing DEI programs, strategies, and policies at scale, crafting global work plans for 14 employee resource groups, and leading crucial discussions on the future of work through an intersectional lens. Her mission is clear: to increase access and opportunity for individuals across a comprehensive spectrum of identities, from race and ethnicity to gender identity, accessibility, sexual orientation, and beyond, in every professional industry. Diya, grounded in her experience as a DEI columnist for the Seattle Times, a board member of the Asian at Amazon Global Board, and her appointment to the Seattle Women's Commission in 2018, brought a wealth of knowledge and a deeply human-centered approach to the conversation. Her academic background, including a Bachelor of Journalism and a Master of Education with a focus on curriculum development, further solidifies her expertise in this space. Stepping into the conversation, Diya immediately addressed a crucial aspect of DEI work: the importance of community and collaboration. "I'm so glad you brought this up," she began, acknowledging the various perspectives and competencies within the industry. Her core belief resonated strongly: "I believe that we all bring various competencies, various skills, various lived experiences, and we're stronger as a group and as a community." This wasn't just a platitude; it was a foundational principle for the discussion that unfolded. Diya emphasized that the strength of the DEI movement lies not in individual brilliance but in collective effort. "Rather than looking at how well we show up individually, we'll never be able to do it all, right?" she wisely stated. Highlighting the complementary nature of their skills, she acknowledged Dr. White's exceptional ability to convey the importance of humanity, relationship building, and community across diverse audiences. "We're not in competition with each other, right? We're here collectively. So, let's uplift each other, and let's also be aware of where perhaps our weaknesses may be, and lean on each other so that we can lift together." The conversation delved deeper into the nuances of collaboration, with Diya underscoring the value of respectful challenge in their partnership. Drawing on the concept of "safe places of discomfort," she highlighted that growth often occurs when individuals are willing to engage with differing viewpoints in an environment of trust and mutual respect. Diya also brought her perspective as a Canadian, emphasizing how different cultural backgrounds can enrich the DEI landscape. "Another difference that you and I have as a Canadian, I bring a different lens. And what I've experienced being brought up in Canada may be different than what you've experienced being brought up in the US. An Asian woman, a Black woman, there are so many differences. So, instead of disregarding those differences, let's bring them all to the table." This call to embrace diverse perspectives and center on shared values was a powerful reminder of the inclusive nature of effective DEI work. Key Takeaways and Next Steps: The intentional conversation between Dr. White and Diya offered valuable insights for anyone engaged in or interested in DEI work. Here are some key takeaways and suggested next steps: Embrace Differences as Strengths: Rather than viewing differences in opinion, communication styles, or lived experiences as obstacles, recognize them as opportunities for learning and growth. Practice Thoughtful Inquiry: Cultivate the habit of asking questions to foster deeper dialogue and understanding across different perspectives. Explore the VUCA/VICA Framework: Reflect on the VUCA framework (Volatility, Uncertainty, Complexity, Ambiguity) and consider reframing it as VICA (Vision, Understanding, Clarity, Agility) to navigate challenging times with a more proactive and positive mindset. Cultivate Cultural Humility: Research and actively practice cultural humility in both personal and professional interactions. Remember that cultural humility is a lifelong process of self-reflection and learning. Take the time to look up the origins of the cultural humility framework, which was developed by two women of color in the healthcare space, to gain a deeper understanding of its context and significance. Maintain Hope and Positive Energy: Acknowledge the challenges inherent in DEI work but consciously strive to maintain hope and positive energy to sustain long-term engagement and impact. Champion Community and Collaboration: Recognize that DEI is a collective endeavor. Actively seek opportunities to collaborate, support, and uplift others in this work. Be mindful of creating "intentional communities of practice" where individuals can learn and grow together. Value Diverse Communication Styles: Understand that individuals learn and communicate in different ways. Be patient and use varied approaches, such as prompts and questions, to facilitate learning and reflection. Extend Support and Speak Up Mindfully: For women and marginalized individuals, share your perspectives and support others in speaking up, while always prioritizing your own safety and well-being. The conversation between Dr. Nika White and Diya Khanna served as a powerful reminder that the journey towards a more diverse, equitable, and inclusive world is not a solitary one. By embracing our differences, fostering genuine collaboration, and centering on our shared humanity, we can indeed be "stronger together" in the vital work that lies ahead. Intentional Conversations is a weekly podcast by Nika White Consulting that intersects diversity, equity, and inclusion dialogue with leadership and business. Click here to register to attend the live sessions each Friday from 11 a.m. to 12 noon EST. You may also search archives to view replays of past episodes, or you can listen to the Intentional Conversations Podcast on your favorite platform.

Photo Credit: University of South Carolina March is a whirlwind. Women's History Month collides with the fever pitch of March Madness, creating a powerful intersection of celebration and competition. For me, and for many Gamecocks faithful, this month is synonymous with one name: Dawn Staley. As a proud alumna of the University of South Carolina, my connection to Coach Staley runs deeper than just cheering from the stands. It’s a connection rooted in the shared experience of navigating a complex history, a history that, frankly, hasn't always been kind. South Carolina, with its legacy of leading the charge for secession and its wealth built on the backs of enslaved people, carries a heavy burden. Even today, the echoes of racism persist, a stark reminder that the fight for equality is far from over. It was only in 1963 that Henrie Monteith Treadwell and two other brave students desegregated the university, a testament to the long road we’ve traveled. And then there's Dawn Staley. When she arrived in Columbia, South Carolina, she didn't just coach basketball; she ignited a movement. She didn't just build a team; she built a legacy. She didn't just win championships; she shifted the very narrative of women's basketball. Coach Staley's "uncommon favor" isn't just about winning games. It's about using her platform to amplify the voices of Black women, demand equity, and champion racial justice. She understands the power of representation and the importance of seeing yourself reflected in positions of leadership and excellence. She’s turned the Gamecocks into a powerhouse, a symbol of pride not just for the university but for the entire state, and especially for Black women who often felt unseen. Think about the impact. Before Dawn Staley, women's basketball, while respected, didn't command the same national attention. Now, packed arenas, record-breaking viewership, and palpable excitement surround the sport. She painted a vision and told a story of excellence and possibility, and people listened. They believed. That's the power of storytelling. It's the power of crafting a narrative that resonates, inspires, and drives change. It's the power of connecting on an emotional level, building bridges, and fostering understanding. Businesses can leverage this power to create a more engaged, inclusive, and impactful workplace. At Nika White Consulting, we understand storytelling's transformative potential. We've developed a comprehensive Storytelling Culture Framework, a methodology designed to embed storytelling into your organization's DNA. Our framework focuses on: Enhancing Employee Engagement: Using stories to build emotional connections and foster a sense of belonging. Strengthening Organizational Identity: Crafting narratives that align with your mission and values. Fostering Leadership and Collaboration: Equipping leaders with the skills to inspire and build trust. Driving Inclusion and Representation: Providing a platform for diverse voices to be heard. Supporting Change Management: Using stories to navigate transitions and ensure buy-in. Just as Coach Staley used her platform to change the narrative of women's basketball, your organization can use storytelling to create a culture of connection, empathy, and shared purpose. Imagine a workplace where employees feel deeply connected to their work, where diverse voices are celebrated, and where leaders inspire with authenticity. That's the power of a storytelling culture. Let Nika White Consulting help you unlock that potential. Just as Dawn Staley has shown us the power of a compelling narrative, we can help you craft yours. Let's build a future where every voice is heard and every story matters.

In a recent insightful conversation featuring Dr. Nika White, Paige Robnett , and Ernesto Aguilar , a powerful theme emerged: trust is the currency of change. This discussion delved into the complex journey of creating healthy and fair teams, highlighting the critical role of trust in navigating the inevitable challenges of organizational transformation and doing so by leveraging high-performing DEI Councils. The Non-Linear Path to Change: We often envision change as a straight line, but the reality, as the speakers emphasized, is far from linear. Organizations resistant to change display telltale signs: burnout, anxious leadership, and widespread exhaustion. Proactive cultural shifts, however, pave the way for progress. Strategic Culture Change: A Possibility: The goal is to be strategic about culture change. This requires a conscious effort, not a reactive approach. When organizations think strategically, their actions become more impactful, leading to meaningful outcomes. Trust: The Through Line: The conversation consistently returned to the importance of trust. To cultivate trust, organizations must: Empower those with the most power: Change must be driven from the top. Build mature trust systems: This includes transparent communication, active participation, and genuine gratitude. Recognize and support volunteers: Whether volunteers or "volunteer-told," their efforts deserve recognition and, ideally, budgetary support. Structure and Systems: The Foundation of Trust in DEI Councils: Robust systems are crucial for maintaining and growing trust. This includes: Onboarding and offboarding processes. Succession planning. Clear rules of engagement and community norms. Mechanisms for navigating diverse perspectives. DEI Councils: Canaries in the Coal Mine: DEI councils play a vital role in signalling organizational health. However, they should not be overburdened or mistaken for HR departments. Key factors for their success include: Clear charters: Defining purpose, responsibilities, and time commitments. Executive leadership support: Active engagement and buy-in. Strategic focus: Prioritizing impactful initiatives over numerous activities. Clear communication: Setting expectations and providing regular feedback. Proper resourcing: Mature organizations provide the required resources. Power and Authority: DEI councils need real power to enact change. Professional Development: upskilling team members. Effective Communication Strategies: Communication strategies must be developed well before council members are appointed. Resistance often stems from a lack of clarity. Organizations must address the "little behaviors" that hinder participation. Recruitment strategies should reflect a commitment to DEI. Building Relationships and Holding Space: Creating opportunities for relationship-building through storytelling and curiosity is essential. Genuine curiosity and active listening are vital for fostering trust. Key Takeaways and Next Steps: The discussion highlighted the need for organizations to: Utilize resources like the DEI Council resource guide. Develop clear communication strategies for DEI council roles. Create charters for DEI councils. Foster active executive leadership support. Provide professional development opportunities for council members. Focus on strategic, impactful initiatives. Establish clear reporting structures. Implement regular communication and feedback loops. The Impact of Small Interactions: Ernesto Aguilar's personal story underscored the profound impact of seemingly small interactions. Public media transformed his life, demonstrating how even brief encounters can set individuals on unexpected and fulfilling paths. Final Thoughts: Creating healthy and fair teams is an ongoing journey that requires commitment, strategic thinking, and trust. Organizations can cultivate cultures where everyone feels valued and empowered by prioritizing trust-building and implementing robust systems. Remember that even if the impact is not immediately visible, the work being done is still important. Intentional Conversations is a weekly podcast by Nika White Consulting that intersects diversity, equity, and inclusion dialogue with leadership and business. Click here to register to attend the live sessions each Friday from 11 a.m. to 12 noon EST. You may also search archives to view replays of past episodes, or you can listen to the Intentional Conversations Podcast on your favorite platform.

Dr. Nika White recently engaged in a thought-provoking "Intentional Conversation" with Naaima Khan , a seasoned consultant and strategist dedicated to advancing racial and economic equity. Naaima, the founder of Create Good Consulting, brings over 15 years of experience to her work, focusing on equity-centered strategic advising, impact assessment, and facilitation. The Intentionality Behind "Create Good" Naaima's "Create Good" choice for her consulting firm's name was deeply intentional. I nitially, she considered names like "Create Justice" or "Create Bold," but ultimately settled on "good" due to its universality and the Arabic concept of "qayr." Qayr: This concept emphasizes that good can be done in any situation, regardless of scale. Naaima believes that consistent small steps accumulate over time, leading to meaningful change. Universality: "Good" is subjective, allowing individuals to define it according to their values. Naaima appreciates this flexibility, recognizing that her definition of good may differ from others. Principles Rooted in Abundance, Asset-Based Thinking, and Authenticity Naaima's work is guided by principles of abundance, asset-based thinking, and authenticity. Abundance: In a world often driven by scarcity, Naaima chooses to operate from a place of abundance. She believes there is enough work for everyone and emphasizes supporting fellow businesses. This mindset fosters collaboration and recognizes the inherent value of each individual. Asset-Based Thinking: Drawing from her experience in philanthropy, Naaima observed a tendency to frame community needs in negative terms. She advocates for asset-based thinking, which acknowledges challenges while highlighting the strengths, creativity, and resources within communities. This approach aims to counter dehumanization and empower communities to define their narratives. Authenticity: Naaima also mentioned that all of these values are aspirational and that she is constantly working on them herself. Intersecting Communities and Anti-Colonialism Naaima's approach to equity work is deeply informed by her intersecting communities and an anti-colonial perspective. Intersecting Communities: Rather than focusing solely on individual identities, Naaima emphasizes the importance of communities. As a Muslim woman of South Asian descent, she recognizes the influence of these communities on her worldview and work. Anti-Colonialism: Naaima views anti-colonialism as challenging imperialism and its associated values. She critiques Eurocentric models that prioritize rugged individualism, self-interest, and competition. Instead, she advocates for collectivism, interdependence, and community well-being. Neoliberalism: She ties the idea of colonialism to neoliberalism, saying that neoliberalism is a set of values that justify and reinforce colonial systems. Challenging Eurocentric Models Naaima believes it's essential to challenge Eurocentric models in equity work. Values-Driven Approach: She encourages organizations to articulate their values and align their equity work with those values. This serves as a filter for strategic decision-making. Power Analysis and Root Cause Analysis: She advocates for conducting power and root cause analyses filtered by values. Accountability and Measurement: She stresses the importance of measuring indicators and results, ensuring accountability to the community. Efficacy Argument: She points out that there is both a moral and efficacy argument for justice-oriented work. Measuring results ensures that progress is being made. Key Takeaways: "Create Good" emphasizes the power of consistent small steps in driving change. Asset-based thinking and abundance mindsets are crucial for empowering communities. Challenging Eurocentric models and embracing collectivism are essential for advancing equity. Values alignment and accountability are key to effective equity work. Intentional Conversations is a weekly podcast by Nika White Consulting that intersects diversity, equity, and inclusion dialogue with leadership and business. Click here to register to attend the live sessions each Friday from 11 a.m. to 12 noon EST. You may also search archives to view replays of past episodes, or you can listen to the Intentional Conversations Podcast on your favorite platform.

Dr. Nika White recently hosted an insightful conversation on her "Intentional Conversations" platform with Janet Stovall , a global chief diversity officer, consultant, speaker, and author. Janet's work focuses on helping businesses dismantle systemic inequities and unlock the true value of diversity. With three million views on her TED Talks and a wealth of experience, Janet shared her unique perspective on the role of businesses in driving meaningful change. Why Business? Janet firmly believes that businesses are uniquely positioned to dismantle systemic inequities because they're the only sector left with the power and incentive to do so. While governments struggle with bureaucracy and a lack of urgency, businesses respond to economic realities. "Money talks," Janet asserts, and when the bottom line demonstrates that DEI matters, companies act. Uncovering the True Value of Diversity Janet shared a powerful example of how she helped a major pharmaceutical company's African-American Business Resource Group (BRG) become more relevant and impactful. By guiding them through her "in-demand" model, she helped them identify their unique value proposition. The Challenge: The BRG felt underutilized and wanted to contribute more meaningfully. The Solution: Janet facilitated a process where the group analyzed the company's products (HIV drugs) and the demographics most affected (heterosexual Black women). The Outcome: The BRG presented innovative ideas to the CEO, which were implemented and generated millions of dollars for the company. This demonstrated how leveraging unique identities can drive business success. The Power of Inclusion Janet's TED Talks, viewed by millions, emphasize the crucial distinction between diversity and inclusion. "Companies can mandate diversity, but they must cultivate inclusion," she states. For Janet, inclusion is about behavior, not just feelings. She advocates for defining inclusion in terms of what it allows people to contribute, particularly from their unique lived experiences. Defining Inclusion: Janet stresses that there is no universal definition. Each organization must define inclusion relative to its own context. She uses a "Brandy Melville to Ben and Jerry's continuum" to illustrate how vastly different inclusion can look in different company cultures. Actionable Steps: She emphasizes that inclusion is actionable through behavior. "Diversity is not a problem to solve. Diversity solves problems. Inclusion is not feeling valued. Inclusion is being able to deliver value. And equity is not fair people. Equity is fair systems.” Navigating Public Communication on DEI In her book, "The Conscious Communication: The Fine Art of Not Saying Stupid Shit," co-authored with Kim Clark, Janet outlines key strategies for deciding whether to communicate publicly about DEI or social justice issues. She developed a "DEPTH" model: Deliberate: Is there a good reason for saying it? Educated: Do you know everything you need to know about it? Purposeful: Does it align with your values? Tailored: Does it align with your unique abilities? Habitual: Will you say it again? This model helps individuals and organizations ensure their communication is thoughtful and impactful. Evolving Perspectives Janet's journey has been shaped by pivotal moments and a deep understanding of systemic inequities. She identifies as a "desegregationist," focusing on moving the "big rock first" and prioritizing those most harmed. Her upcoming book, "Now What?" delves into the archetypes of individuals in DEI work and how to navigate different organizational environments. Key Takeaways: Businesses have a critical role in dismantling systemic inequities. Inclusion is about behavior and creating environments where everyone can contribute. Strategic communication is essential for advancing DEI. Understanding one's own role, and the environment they are in, are crucial to creating change. Janet Stovall's insights provide a valuable framework for individuals and organizations committed to creating a more equitable and inclusive future. Intentional Conversations is a weekly podcast by Nika White Consulting that intersects diversity, equity, and inclusion dialogue with leadership and business. Click here to register to attend the live sessions each Friday from 11 a.m. to 12 noon EST. You may also search archives to view replays of past episodes, or you can listen to the Intentional Conversations Podcast on your favorite platform.

Five years ago, Dr. Nika White launched the Intentional Conversations podcast, a space for deep, meaningful dialogue on leadership, inclusion, and equity. To celebrate this milestone, she gathered four remarkable women for a reunion episode: Tara Jaye Frank , Deepa Purushothaman , Minda Harts , and Ritu Bhasin . Their conversation was a powerful blend of personal updates, professional insights, and reflections on the current state of advocacy and community. Celebrating Milestones and Navigating Uncertainty The reunion kicked off with personal updates. Tara Jaye Frank shared her excitement about finishing her new book, a project that took on unexpected dimensions. Minda Harts celebrated the news that her first book, "The Memo," is being adapted into a film, while also gearing up for the release of "Talk to Me Nice." Deepa Purushothaman acknowledged the significance of the five-year milestone and spoke candidly about the ongoing challenges in advancing women's initiatives. Dr. Nika White then shifted the focus to the broader context, discussing the need for women of color to find balance amidst systemic barriers. Minda Harts resonated with this, acknowledging the difficulty of managing overwhelming information and the importance of setting personal boundaries. The conversation highlighted the shared experience of navigating uncertainty and the critical role of community support. Personal Reflections and Professional Insights Minda Harts delved into the personal impact of her work, particularly during intense periods like Black History Month. She emphasized the importance of prioritizing well-being while advocating for inclusivity. She also stressed the value of focusing on a few key initiatives to maintain mental health and effectiveness. Deepa Purushothaman shared her experiences with burnout and the need for prioritization after significant life changes. She underscored the importance of finding joy in small moments and the critical support of community. Ritu Bhasin added that she is holding space for clients feeling psychologically unsafe, while also emphasizing the importance of anchoring joy. Tara Jaye Frank reflected on her decade-long journey with the Waymakers Change Group, highlighting the significance of addressing emotional needs in the workplace. She expressed concerns about the current state of DEI efforts and introduced the concept of "you are before the world," emphasizing self-care and human connection. The Power of Community and Interconnectedness Dr. Nika White prompted Minda Harts to discuss the meaning of community, particularly in relation to her advocacy for younger women of color. Minda emphasized that community is essential and can take many forms, from books and podcasts to social media interactions. The conversation highlighted the lessons learned during the COVID-19 pandemic about the significance of community support. The importance of fostering community among young people to understand interconnectedness was also amplified. While based in Canada, Ritu Bhasin spoke to the shared challenges faced by both nations and the need for collective action and using one's voice to advocate for justice. Addressing Current Trends in Gender and Racial Equity Dr. Nika White and Deepa Purushothaman addressed the setbacks in gender parity and inclusion, highlighting the impact of current societal trends. Deepa noted that many underestimate the effects of these trends and stressed the importance of collective responsibility. The conversation underscored the need for a broader understanding of community and the circles we draw around ourselves. The women discussed the impact of current events on workplace dynamics, the role of capitalism and power dynamics, and the need for changing narratives and values in advocacy work. They emphasized the importance of embracing creativity and human connection in leadership, and the need to continue pushing for progress despite the challenges. This reunion episode was a testament to the power of intentional conversations and the enduring impact of these five remarkable women. Their insights and experiences offer valuable guidance for anyone navigating the complexities of leadership, inclusion, and community in today's world. Intentional Conversations is a weekly podcast by Nika White Consulting that intersects diversity, equity, and inclusion dialogue with leadership and business. Click here to register to attend the live sessions each Friday from 11 a.m. to 12 noon EST. You may also search archives to view replays of past episodes, or you can listen to the Intentional Conversations Podcast on your favorite platform.

A powerful conversation recently unfolded between Dr. Nika White and accessibility pioneer Mike Paciello . They delved into the critical importance of digital equality and the path towards a more inclusive digital landscape. Their discussion illuminated the evolution of accessibility standards, addressed common misconceptions, and explored the exciting yet potentially challenging role of AI in shaping the future of accessibility. From Braille to Broadband: The Evolution of Accessible Publishing Mike Paciello's journey into accessible publishing began with a focus on creating documents for the visually impaired. He shared his experiences with the National Braille Press, the development of the Gen. Code language, and the formation of the International Committee for Accessible Document Design (ICAD). This committee played a pivotal role in creating a publishing standard for electronic files, ultimately leading to the creation of the Vision Impaired Information Services Program Office and the groundbreaking release of the first fully accessible DVD and CD-ROM distribution. Dr. White acknowledged the profound impact of Paciello's work, emphasizing how these accessibility standards have broadened their reach, benefiting a diverse community far beyond those initially targeted. Debunking Myths and Championing Inclusivity The conversation then shifted to the broader landscape of accessibility standards. Paciello stressed that these standards benefit everyone, not just individuals with disabilities. He recounted his work with influential figures in technology and his unwavering belief in embedding accessibility within software development from the outset. Addressing common misconceptions, he emphasized that web accessibility encompasses all disability communities, not just those with visual impairments, and is often tragically overlooked in the race to release new technologies. Dr. White and Paciello underscored the need for a fundamental shift in organizational mindset, promoting a culture where accessibility is not an afterthought but a core value. Building a Culture of Accessibility: From Leadership to Implementation Dr. White and Paciello explored the importance of fostering inclusivity and ensuring digital equality for all. They highlighted the need for organizations to adopt an accessibility maturity model to identify gaps and refine their strategies. Paciello emphasized the critical role of leadership buy-in and support for accessibility initiatives, citing Microsoft as a prime example. Dr. White echoed this sentiment, stressing the importance of embedding accessibility into the very fabric of an organization's culture and establishing clear accountability. The potential impact of the current political climate on accessibility efforts was also discussed, raising concerns about the future of established standards. Integrating Accessibility into the SDLC: A Proactive Approach Paciello championed the integration of accessibility into the software development lifecycle (SDLC). He explained how this proactive approach ensures that products are not only accessible but also usable for individuals with disabilities. He emphasized the need for developers to be well-versed in accessibility guidelines, utilize appropriate developer tools, conduct thorough usability testing, and implement robust quality assurance testing. Paciello also cautioned against misleading marketing claims, advocating for truthful representations of product accessibility and a focus on genuinely enhancing the user experience. Dr. White clarified the meaning of SDLC and explored the potential impact of AI on web and software accessibility. The Double-Edged Sword of AI: Opportunity and Bias The conversation concluded with a discussion about the complex role of artificial intelligence in accessibility. Paciello acknowledged the potential of AI to revolutionize mobility and communication for individuals with disabilities and its application in website remediation. However, he also cautioned about the inherent challenge of bias in AI systems, which can inadvertently exclude individuals with disabilities. Drawing on his experience as co-chair of the United States Federal Access Board's TEITAC, Paciello expressed concern about potential threats to existing accessibility standards. He also shared insights into his company, AudioEye, and its initiatives, including Audio IQ, an accessibility training platform, and an AI-powered remediation system. The conversation between Dr. White and Mike Paciello served as a powerful reminder of the ongoing journey toward digital equality. Their insights into the evolution of accessibility, the importance of inclusive design, and the complex implications of AI provide a valuable roadmap for organizations and individuals striving to create a more accessible and equitable digital world. Intentional Conversations is a weekly podcast by Nika White Consulting that intersects diversity, equity, and inclusion dialogue with leadership and business. Click here to register to attend the live sessions each Friday from 11 a.m. to 12 noon EST. You may also search archives to view replays of past episodes, or you can listen to the Intentional Conversations Podcast on your favorite platform.

A compelling dialogue recently transpired between Dr. Nika White and Dr. Adriane Johnson-Williams . The conversation focused on the crucial distinction between simply talking about equity and genuinely achieving it within organizations. It offered invaluable insights into prioritizing diversity, fostering inclusive decision-making, and navigating the complexities of implementing real, lasting change. Diversity as a Driver of Decision-Making Dr. Johnson-Williams emphasized the critical need to incorporate diverse perspectives, especially those of marginalized communities, into organizational decision-making processes. She stressed the importance of prioritizing employee well-being, particularly for those from diverse backgrounds, and creating truly equitable workplace experiences. A key takeaway was the importance of self-reflection for leaders, understanding their own limitations and biases as they guide organizational change. Dr. Johnson-Williams advocated for actively recruiting and hiring individuals with diverse backgrounds and experiences, recognizing their unique contributions to driving meaningful change. The conversation also acknowledged the inherent challenges of implementing organizational change and the necessity of senior leadership possessing the skills to create and maintain equitable workplaces. The concept of "merit" in organizational decision-making was also brought into question, prompting reflection on how it is defined and measured. Equity in Action: More Than Just Words Dr. Johnson-Williams powerfully articulated the difference between using the right language about equity and actually living it in business operations. She made it clear that achieving equity requires deep personal work, vulnerability, and a committed alignment toward a clear set of measurable results. Drawing from her experiences working with various companies and referencing her book, "Not Your Father's Capitalism," Dr. Johnson-Williams explored the real-world challenges of pursuing equity in a business context. She highlighted the crucial need for education and awareness to fully understand the why behind equity and the importance of acknowledging one's own sources of power and privilege. She also shared insights into her podcast, "The Equitable," which explores how equity is being implemented across various sectors and fields. Navigating the Current Landscape: Action, Resilience, and Self-Care The conversation concluded with a focus on practical strategies for navigating the current climate surrounding diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) initiatives. Key recommendations included: Continued Exploration of Equity: Dr. Johnson-Williams will continue hosting "The Equitable" podcast series, providing a platform for exploring equity across diverse sectors and geographies. Prioritizing Self-Care: Practitioners were encouraged to prioritize self-care and reflective practices to maintain resilience in the face of current challenges to DEI initiatives. Focusing on Action: The emphasis was placed on concentrating on concrete actions rather than simply using the right language, aligning with others who are working towards similar goals in different ways. Dr. White and Dr. Johnson-Williams' conversation served as a vital reminder that true equity requires more than just good intentions. It demands a commitment to action, a willingness to engage in difficult conversations, and a focus on creating lasting, systemic change. Their insights offer a valuable roadmap for organizations and individuals striving to build a more equitable and inclusive future. Intentional Conversations is a weekly podcast by Nika White Consulting that intersects diversity, equity, and inclusion dialogue with leadership and business. Click here to register to attend the live sessions each Friday from 11 a.m. to 12 noon EST. You may also search archives to view replays of past episodes, or you can listen to the Intentional Conversations Podcast on your favorite platform.

This year, we celebrate the 5th anniversary of our Intentional Conversations Vodcast community, continuing with our weekly live event featuring Dr. Nika White and a guest co-host. Our most recent guest, Katrina Jones , was a rich conversation filled with insightful, covering a range of topics related to diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI), from personal experiences to the evolving landscape of DEI in organizations. We're excited to share some key takeaways from this important discussion. Katrina's Joy and Perspective: Katrina generously shared her personal experiences, highlighting her passion for connecting with people and her joy in everyday moments, like watching her daughter play. She acknowledged the challenges of our current times but emphasized the importance of taking things one day at a time and finding personal coping strategies. Dr. White echoed this sentiment, underscoring the importance of focusing on joy, especially during difficult periods. Building Inclusive Cultures: A Marathon, not a Sprint: A core theme of the conversation revolved around the misconception that building an inclusive culture is a short-term project. Dr. White and Katrina emphasized that true inclusion requires a long-term commitment and a fundamental shift in organizational values and culture. Setting goals and investing for a year or two is not enough. Meaningful change happens through consistent effort and focusing on how people behave daily. Katrina shared examples of practical steps, such as ensuring accessibility in note-taking and being intentional about team activities. It's about weaving inclusivity into the fabric of the organization, not just implementing processes. The Evolution of DEI: The discussion also explored how DEI work has evolved in organizations. While the language and specific approaches may change over time, the core principles of DEI remain crucial for attracting and retaining top talent. Dr. White and Katrina acknowledged the current political climate's impact, which may prompt some organizations to re-evaluate their strategies and language. However, they firmly believe that DEI is not going away. It will continue to evolve, adapting to better serve all employees. Amplifying DEI work and maintaining a strategic and intentional approach are key to its continued success. Engaging Stakeholders: A Collaborative Approach: Dr. White highlighted the importance of engaging a broad range of stakeholders in DEI conversations, including white men, and expanding our understanding of diversity beyond race and gender. Katrina added that involving teams like HR, legal, and compliance is equally crucial. They also discussed the varying levels of public communication organizations employ regarding their DEI efforts, with some being more transparent than others. Both speakers cautioned against taking media headlines about companies pulling back from DEI work at face value, as these stories may not always represent the complete picture. Safety Concerns for DEI Practitioners: The conversation also addressed a critical and often overlooked aspect of DEI work: the safety of practitioners. Dr. White and Katrina shared personal experiences of being more cautious in public appearances due to safety concerns, including a recent incident involving the publication of personal information of diversity professionals. They stressed the importance of prioritizing safety, making mindful decisions about public engagement, and extending grace to others navigating similar challenges. The discussion also touched on individuals' different roles in social movements and the importance of rest to avoid burnout. This conversation provided valuable insights into DEI's current state and future. It reinforced the importance of long-term commitment, genuine engagement, and a focus on creating truly inclusive cultures. We are grateful to Dr. White and Katrina for sharing their expertise and personal experiences with our community. Intentional Conversations is a weekly podcast by Nika White Consulting that intersects diversity, equity, and inclusion dialogue with leadership and business. Click here to register to attend the live sessions each Friday from 11 a.m. to 12 noon EST. You may also search archives to view replays of past episodes, or you can listen to the Intentional Conversations Podcast on your favorite platform.